Now is this size truck actually necessary or even practical...

"OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars" (jakeauern)
11/24/2016 at 16:31 • Filed to: None

Not only is it massive but it’s fully loaded an in a part of town where people tell people what to do, not do it themselves. This truck is pulled all the way in and still sticks out so far. This is dumb imo.

DISCUSSION (84)

S65 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:32

I know somebody who’d really like that

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > S65
11/24/2016 at 16:33

Is it you

S65 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:35

Maybe

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:35

These are so much fun to maneuver around. Especially trying to get them on a lift in a tight shop.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > S65
11/24/2016 at 16:35

Do you enjoy parking or do you hate yourself

Chasaboo > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:37

In the words of Jezza, “It’s stupid.”

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
11/24/2016 at 16:37

I am literally driving one of the biggest Toyotas ever made(2014 Tundra Platinum) and am still looking at that guy like his truck is too big.

S65 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:38

I hate myself

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:38

Very when you tow and carry a decent amount people around.

jkm7680 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:38

Jesus, that long bed is very long.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Chasaboo
11/24/2016 at 16:38

At least my dads truck fits in the spot kind of. Tundras are big. That is indeed stupid.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
11/24/2016 at 16:40

My dads Tundra can carry just as many people and tow a lot and is still not that rediculous

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:40

I know quite a few people with this exact combination and generally they have it because they need a crew cab for family and a long bed for either a 5th wheel trailer or just haul a lot of shit often. You don’t put up with driving one of these because you like how long it is.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:40

My dad and brother in law (for now) have on. Yes, they do need the long bed and four doors. As well as the 4wd and dually axles. A small truck isn’t gonna tow a 37' fifth wheel in and out of sandy camp grounds.

Moves-Like-Senna > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:41

The top of the line Tundra can only tow 10,500 lb, which pictured appears to be an HD Truck.

A base 2500HD can tow 14,800 lbs (goes up with a minor price bump)

F350/3500 trucks can town a hair under 30,000lbs

I think you’re underestimating “a lot” by A LOT!

1500 line trucks tow about 12000+ lbs

Also, crew cab = fantastic way to only own one vehicle - cheaper in some states/provinces than a car + truck. As for the long bed, it adds an extra foot and a half to the bed, which is great to throw more stuff back there (or longer) and the longer wheel base can make towing a little more comfortable.

I’ve grown up towing/hauling and still do from time to time. Hell, we moved a house last year on the foundation a few feet with an F550 and Ram 5500.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street.
11/24/2016 at 16:42

I excuse the duallys for being huge because they’re semis for normal people. This is just big to be big.

Moves-Like-Senna > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street.
11/24/2016 at 16:42

Exactly!

wafflesnfalafel > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:42

Don’t see many of those quad cabs with the long bed - maybe they tow a 5th wheel with it or something.

Klaus Schmoll > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:43

Isn’t this the answer to “give me the most truck money can buy, just because!” Crew cab long bed makes the insecure male think he looks manly just like wearing a tool belt when hitting the bars to meet those “females” they have seen on the innerweb.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:43

We have a 3500HD Silverado that’s really good for towing a 5th wheel and carrying 3 people and a lot of things in the truck as well. It’s 100% useful based on what you’re doing with the vehicle.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Moves-Like-Senna
11/24/2016 at 16:44

If you need a HD truck get a dually! Those are fine to be long bed and crew cab.

For Sweden > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:44

This truck is good for pulling polo ponies

Tekamul > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:44

So, you can’t park these anywhere on a street with metered parking, right? I don’t think I’ve seen a spot this could fit in.

My citroen won't start > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:46

No, absolutely not.

If the rest of the entire planet can do without these stupid vehicles, I can’t see why they are necessary.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
11/24/2016 at 16:47

Ian it a dually?

lone_liberal > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:47

That used to be what construction companies used to move crews and equipment/materials around. They were even fairly common in the military when I was in for the same purposes. The difference is that those were stripper work trucks with rubber floors and no radio. I’m not sure why you’d have a fancy truck in that configuration.

Svend > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:48

It’s just ugly and oversized.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Tekamul
11/24/2016 at 16:48

Within 5 miles of downtown this could fit nowhere

not for canada - australian in disguise > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:49

We need a four-row Suburban that’s that length. Just for fun.

Moves-Like-Senna > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:50

It really depends on the use. Dually’s are great for towing but again if you’re hauling rather than towing, you’re better off going single rears for better MPG and maneuverability. Duallys get limited after a while.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > My citroen won't start
11/24/2016 at 16:51

Because ‘merica. Granted this what my parents driveway looks like right now... lots of big vehicles...

Kinja'd!!!

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:51

Single rear wheel.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
11/24/2016 at 16:52

Boooo... got to go for the dually

BorkBorkBjork > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:52

It’s not that big, and many do have a use for such a vehicle. Do you believe an organization should have to approve such a purchase? People can buy what they want, useful or not.

Urambo Tauro > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:53

Counterpoint: A lot of parking spaces are awfully small nowadays (in the interest of maximizing lot capacity), even at stores like Home Depot where you’re far more likely to encounter people with good reason to drive one of these.

shop-teacher > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:53

So you object to how big this truck is, but then you think it should be wider? You make no sense!

XJDano > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:53

In America excessive and impractical are necessities.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:53

We don’t need a dually so we didn’t buy a dually.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > shop-teacher
11/24/2016 at 16:55

Well if it’s already that big why not go all the way! It’s just silly because it’s big without going all the way. Like buying a million dollar house and putting linoleum floors in instead of hardwood

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:56

I don’t really see the benefit of an 8 foot bed. I could always drop the tailgate if something is longer than 6.5, and the extra length is a pain in the ass.

shop-teacher > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 16:58

Or it’s like buying the truck that you need, and no more :)

Wacko > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
11/24/2016 at 17:02

my snowmobile is 10 feet long, try sticking that in the back of a 6.5 foot bed.

the point of a truck is the bed. If i ever get a pickup it will be with an 8 foot bed.

EL_ULY > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 17:02

100% yes for many many many obvious reasons sir. Gotta bust ass doing real work to pay the bills. Why not your work rig be a DD.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Wacko
11/24/2016 at 17:07

That’s a good use of an 8 foot bed. 6.5 is fine for most people, any shorter than that why bother getting one.

yamahog > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 17:13

When you have a long bed, you have to get used to backing in or being an asshole.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > yamahog
11/24/2016 at 17:18

I have to do that with my dads Tundra which is too big already haha

Svend > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 17:19

Though could be worse.

Could be a Ford F650. I mean what the hell is the point of one.

XJDano > yamahog
11/24/2016 at 17:33

When I had a ‘90 Suburban, only option was to pull through. Park far enough away to pull through. I’m not an ass.

Birddog > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 17:39

I love it! I can see some use for that too. If this guy or gal can afford to own and feed it there’s really no reason to call them out. I take this both ways too. We had to help a Patient’s family out at work the other day. Their Smart had a flat and needed help getting the car home. A coworker and one family member were really trashing this car. Is it practical? Not really out here. But I can’t judge. The owner bought it for a reason and they like it. No need to crap on it.

If people only bought exactly what is necessary this would be one boring place to be.

Gerry197 > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 18:10

How do you know what the owner needs? Maybe he needs a full size bed and 4 real doors. Maybe he tows a boat or large trailer and requires the bed space?

This truck makes more sense than a $250,000 exotic car. More useful to more people most of the time.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > yamahog
11/24/2016 at 18:52

Back in so your front clip is hanging out?

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > My citroen won't start
11/24/2016 at 18:52

Just because YOU don’t see a use for them doesn’t mean it’s not useful to others

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
11/24/2016 at 19:06

I has 7.5 ft bed

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 19:08

My dad took his Ram into Heartford Ct, dropped my mom off at the hospital, and then after 2 hours he drove back to their house an hour away, and got my mom’s Prius because he couldn’t park anywhere. And his is a quad cab 1500 with a 6th box. Not a crew cab, 2500 with an 8ft box.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
11/24/2016 at 19:09

God damn it, Zoidberg. I hadn’t prepared an argument for 7.5 feet.

PWRandSPD > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 19:10

Kinja'd!!!

Because we use them, that is why they are needed.

yamahog > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/24/2016 at 19:44

No, you find a spot on the perimeter such that you can pull all the way back because there are no spots behind you.

My citroen won't start > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/24/2016 at 19:46

The question is necessity, are those necessary? No. The world would do just fine without them (like it currently does).

That up there is the classic putting cheese, chrome and making things JUMBO that America is so great at.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 19:49

We have a couple crew-cab long beds where I work in the summer. They’re huge, for sure, but definitely useful when you have to haul a ton of stuff and a crew. Last fall I drove one of them with a 20-foot dump trailer through downtown Winnipeg. Portage and Main is not a place you want to be with a unit that big. I had a very circuitous route because I was following google maps on my phone and it didn’t give me enough advanced warning on lane changes for turns in mid-day traffic. First time I gave app feedback was begging Google to implement a battleship mode.

PWRandSPD > PWRandSPD
11/24/2016 at 19:51

I have a Crew Cab With the 8' Bed Dually, it is also my DD. I bought it because I cannot fit 6 horses, people and equipment in a Prius. You just don’t know, maybe this guy has a camper or toy hauler that just is not hooked up at the moment. I used to think that if someone had a truck like mine with a cover over the back they were not using it properly. It’s not until I realized I could get one that folds and I don’t have to shovel the bed or crawl into a wet bed to hook up. The long bed is needed for the 5th wheel or gooseneck hitch. Can you get away with the shorter bed, sometimes but it depends on the trailer, not just for overhang and turning, but weight too. Short beds don’t have the same capacities the long bed does. Trust me, we don’t just do I’ve these things for the hell of it, most have specific requirements that need to be met, and it fits the bill.

Funktheduck > yamahog
11/24/2016 at 19:57

I learned that back in high school. It makes getting in and out of spots easier as well.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > My citroen won't start
11/24/2016 at 19:58

To YOU they aren’t a necessity, to some they are. if you have to tow over 20k pounds on a regular basis and want to do it comfortably it’s absolutely a necessity.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > yamahog
11/24/2016 at 19:59

I’m all for finding a perimeter spot but wouldn’t backing into it then make it harder to load?

yamahog > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/24/2016 at 20:06

Depends on the parking lot. Also this is my winter daily and I don’t need to load/unload stuff at the office every day, but I’d definitely feel like an ass taking up 2 spaces, so backing in it is.

Kinja'd!!!

PWRandSPD > My citroen won't start
11/24/2016 at 20:53

I have a Crew Cab With the 8' Bed Dually pretty much fully loaded, it is also my DD. I bought it because I cannot fit 6 horses, people and equipment in a Prius. You just don’t know, maybe this guy has a camper or toy hauler that just is not hooked up at the moment. I used to think that if someone had a truck like mine with a cover over the back they were not using it properly or to haul anything. It’s not until I realized I could get one that folds in a way not to interfere with the gooseneck and I don’t have to shovel snow out of the bed or crawl into a wet bed after a rain storm to hook up. The long bed is needed for the 5th wheel or gooseneck hitch. Can you get away with the shorter bed, sometimes but it depends on the trailer, not just for overhang and turning, but weight too. Short beds don’t have the same capacities the long bed does. Trust me, we don’t just drive these things for the hell of it, most have specific requirements that need to be met, and it fits the bill.

Kinja'd!!!

Autofixation > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 21:15

Growing up we had a Dodge 350 that we actually hauled stuff IN, heavy stuff. We never towed with it. I would say hauling use usually calls for SRW.

Under_Score > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/24/2016 at 21:51

I love that green RAM. Also, A O Pi? Where is the plush panda?

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Under_Score
11/24/2016 at 23:12

My fiancé is the smallest panda ever. 5'2" and weighs less then me when she’s combined with my dog. Her stuffed panda doesn’t leave Samford though.

Tapas > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 03:09

Wut. A quarter of the truck is just hanging outside the spot lol

cberg > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
11/25/2016 at 03:28

I think they invent uses on the lot & drive off with them because they feel useful. A Benz U500 is maybe %40 of that wheelbase & bests these things in just about every capacity. Isn’t this why people use trailers?

cberg > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street.
11/25/2016 at 03:30

...Which is why I camp out of station wagons. Much easier.

cberg > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 03:32

Makes sense to me too, I see so many rollovers with these stretched out HD thingies, the axles are way too springy & the rims are always too big for 4x4.

cberg > PWRandSPD
11/25/2016 at 03:35

Just gonna outright say it: horses are the only living beings with any need whatsoever for 5th wheel trailers. It’s not camping if you’re coughing up 5mpg kinda money to drag around Dish Network.

cberg > not for canada - australian in disguise
11/25/2016 at 03:38

Make it a 4 row work truck Expedition & that would fill the hole in my heart left by the Econoline.

cberg > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 03:39

Chrome everywhere sub-beltline strikes me as anything but ‘professional grade’...

bhtooefr > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
11/25/2016 at 07:42

Whereas I don’t see the point of any less than an 8 foot bed.

When you’re loading 4 square bales of hay, some grain, milking equipment (two stands and a milking machine), buckets, and maybe a few baby goats... that 1.5 feet goes a long way. (And then there’s ~55 more goats, a few bales of straw, several more bales of hay, fence panels, and hay feeders on the trailer.)

Also, if you’re sticking a camper in the back of the pickup, an 8 foot bed makes it a more useful camper. (Yes, you could buy a van instead, but towing capacity on vans in the US isn’t as good.)

bhtooefr > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 08:10

That particular truck? It’s probably a steel penis extension.

Elsewhere, though, trucks that big are absolutely practical if they’re actually being used.

The 8 foot bed means you get more storage.

I think I still know how to load 50 bales of hay onto the back of an 8 foot bed pickup (although probably not a modern one with higher bed sidewalls). The pattern at least on older trucks is, 4 bales on their side longitudinally ahead of the wheel wells, three on their side between the wheel wells, 4 more on their side behind the wheel wells and onto the tailgate for the first layer, then two flat transverse bales hanging over the bed sides repeated to the rear as high as you need to go, then as you near the end, switch back to longitudinal bales). First layer’s 11 bales, second layer and third layer are 14 bales each, then you switch to longitudinal to tie it together and offset a bit and get 8 bales, then you switch back to transverse for the last three bales to tie that all together, 50 bales. Then some twine or straps strategically used to keep the top bales from moving, and if you drive carefully, it all stays there.

You can also get a cap, and have that entire 8 foot bed as covered storage, I got very good with vehicular tetris loading the family pickup to go to goat shows, and when you’re talking about 1.5 feet of length, but ~5.5-6 feet of width, and ~4 feet of height... that’s a lot of cargo.

Finally, as far as cargo goes, if you have a camper in the back, an 8 foot bed gives you more options there. A small camper intended for 6.5 foot beds means you can shut the tailgate (useful when towing for multiple reasons). You could alternately have a bigger camper. (And, yes, you could just get a camper van, but towing capacities are rather low on the vans available in the US.)

The quad cab means your back seat passengers if you have some are more comfortable. I grew up in the back of extended cab pickups for long (as long as 14 hours in one go) trips, and it was pretty awful - no legroom in the ones with a rear bench, and incredibly awful ergonomics in the ones with sideways-facing jump seats. (And, the front seat passengers start losing cabin comfort with a regular cab, and even if I didn’t go on a trip, the extended cab worked better, because of the ability to put things like a 12 volt cooler in the back seat area.)

The longer wheelbase increases stability when towing - the tail can’t wag the dog as easily (and when you’re dealing with livestock trailers, you try to get the weight distribution right, but you’re dealing with living things that can move around, so the weight distribution can shift just because of them moving around).

And, the places you’d realistically take a vehicle like that if you’re actually using it properly are set up for large vehicles. Freeway rest areas, you’d just go into the trucks with trailers side. Fueling is the hardest part on gasoline pickups (unless a station has an RV gas pump, because RVs are bigger), diesels you can just go to the truck side. Livestock facilities are set up for big trucks because, well, yeah.

Also, if you’re not a dick, when you’re taking it to a place set up for cars... you park in the back of the lot if you can. (Granted, spaces where I am (a small city that acts as a rural hub) are generally long enough to take a long bed extended cab full-size, which helps, but no more.)

Now, there is a problem with vehicles like that... the height. Holy crap they’re tall nowadays, even 2WD pickups. And, let me tell you, that much height is not necessary for the real uses of pickups like that. They don’t need that much ground clearance, even the 4WD models - they’re far too big for any trail, 4WD is for getting unstuck on soft surfaces, so they barely need 6" of ground clearance, it’s not like they’re for mudding. Modern HD fullsize overall height kills their fuel efficiency, too, by making the drag area worse.

PWRandSPD > cberg
11/25/2016 at 08:23

5 mpg is just for the fool that gets the gas version. I can get 11-16 fully loaded, up to 24 mpg unladen. My older truck did better without th DEF.

bhtooefr > My citroen won't start
11/25/2016 at 08:24

How would you haul 60 goats (maybe a dozen kids, 30 miniature goats, and 18 full size), 12 bales of hay, 4 bales of straw, 12 bags of grain, a milking machine and milk equipment, two milk stands, a tack box, a dozen or so buckets, 8 hay feeders, a bunch of fence panels, a 12 volt cooler, clothing for a week for three people, sleeping equipment for that week (air mattresses and/or cots, sleeping bags, pillows), and the three people?

You’re gonna end up with something pretty similar to that truck, plus a cap, and a trailer. In Europe, I’m not sure what you’d actually end up with - a Transit maybe, but the towing capacity is only 3500 kg (but more cargo can go into the van), which is higher than it is here IIRC. You may even have to go bigger to get something suitable to tow 10,000 lbs legally.

Under_Score > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 08:32

I love that you referred to her as the smallest panda ever haha. I know some people heading to Samford.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Under_Score
11/25/2016 at 10:41

$$$

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Tapas
11/25/2016 at 10:42

I know! That’s what first caught my attention. If it tells you anything my dads Cremax Tundra is behind it in that row and sticking out a bit and there is no way to see it.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 14:10

Probably. Since they got a long bed odds are they use it often for as-advertised truck stuff, if they were going for the big-trunk-4wd-sedan odds are they’d have got the short box.

Milky > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars
11/25/2016 at 14:24

I just want to comment on how all of that chrome on the cab makes the bed look like its from junkyard.

Chevy Silverado HD XXX CHROME edition, because MOAR.